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  • Jun. 25th, 2006 at 3:31 PM
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There should be a term in the language to describe a person just enough older and grumpier than oneself that, by comparing his or her responses to things and the passing scene, one can judge oneself not so old and square and out of it as all that, and with an admirable tolerance for and understanding of the Modern World.

This occasioned by a John Updike rant (gentle, but a rant) about Google's plans to digitize every book ever written and permit everyone to have acces to everything, cut it up, build their own personal versions of whatever and then disperse them to the world.  There is some kind of category error that (old) people make when faced with the World Wide anything:  they don't see that making things available to all the world will not actually mean that everyone in the world will avail themselves of it.  It appears to them that the value and uniquenss and quiddity of literary works will be somehow infinitely diluted by the Whole World having infinite and instant access to it.  But they won't want any of it except the things they want, and now can find and have, and those who want to cut up books and paste their contents into fanbooks and hommages and imitations and then distribute won't be doing it with books that will remain inaccessible to them for other reasons:  Ulysses and the Odyssey and and and and  will be just as invisible to them, or just as randomly likely to appear before them and captivate them, as they ever were, i.e. not very likely.

From ancient times to the end of the 19th c. when books became vastly available and accessible, those who could get them and read them used to cut and paste them in copybooks and beautiful quotation books and collections of homilies (and recipes), which collections then circulated, some of them becoming more available than their originals, in fact becoming in some cases all we know of those originals.

So JU should probably rest easy.  Though I love bookstores as much as he does.  The contents thereof a different matter:  some yes, some no.

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[info]jackwilliambell wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2006 09:41 pm (UTC)
So, are you saying that we can coin the term 'updike' to mean ". . . a person just enough older and grumpier than oneself that, by comparing his or her responses to things and the passing scene, one can judge oneself not so old and square and out of it as all that, and with an admirable tolerance for and understanding of the Modern World."

To use it in a sentence you could say; "Man, those RIAA clowns are such updikes." or "Then she updiked about the new computer system for nearly an hour."
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2006 06:50 pm (UTC)
Yeah, good -- but everybody has his or her own updikes. So it would be more like "Don't updike me -- you're younger than I am".
[info]snej wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2006 09:55 pm (UTC)
My understanding — gleaned from an excellent article by Kevin Kelly in the NYT Magazine a few months ago — is that Google is only making all books searchable, that works still in copyright are not viewable in their entirety but only in brief sections surrounding one's search query. The controversy arises because there is a vast category of books that are out of print and of which it is nearly impossible to determine who, if anyone, still holds the copyright. The world would benefit from having these books become available, but earlier digitization projects have avoided them because of the legal ambiguities. Google, bless their hearts, are taking the position that the only way around this is to digitize all of these in-limbo books, but withdraw any of them if a legitimate copyright-holder appears.

The popular-music world has been dealing with these issues too, of course. It's a quandary, because I love music but hate the companies that sell it. The position I've worked out is that, paradoxically, the only artists that lose out financially from unauthorized copying are the superstars who are best able to afford it. Less well-known artists actually benefit greatly from the exposure and distribution, gaining fans who then spend money on higher-quality CDs, concert tickets, etc. In other words, piracy acts as a progressive tax that evens out the playing field. If the same technology that drains money from Garth Brooks and Madonna allows independent musicians with new ideas to stay afloat and gain fans, I'm all for it.

I think the same arguments can be applied to books. Authors have the additional benefit that reading on a computer isn't nearly as compelling as listening to music via one, so people who have sampled a literary work have more impetus to go buy a legit copy.
[info]bibliofile wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2006 01:06 pm (UTC)
. . . Google is only making all books searchable, that works still in copyright are not viewable in their entirety but only in brief sections surrounding one's search query.

Yes, this is true. Publishers were quite cranky about the project until they understood this. Now, they're not necessarily happy, but they're not all threatening to sue. Mind you, I haven't paid attention to the issue in the last couple of months.

re: terminology
I agree that we need such a term. Studs Terkel is older than almost everybody but not terribly grumpy. Many people are perhaps grumpy enough but too young for the task (even PJ O'Rourke). If Updike is always like that, he'd be a good choice, but I suspect that he may not be. People don't think of Grumpy the dwarf unless mentioned along with one of the others (Sneezy, et al.). Any other suitable mythic figures?
[info]snej wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2006 03:34 pm (UTC)
Andy Rooney.
[info]dsgood wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2006 09:57 pm (UTC)
For me, much younger people can serve that purpose. Prime example: University of Minnesota undergraduates who complain that today's high school kids don't appreciate Real Music (which coincidentally happens to be what they listened to in their high school years.)
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2006 06:54 pm (UTC)
Just whatI mean. Everybody has his or her own updike (if that's wat we call it -- there are grumpier grumpies by far.) It's someone just older enough than me to make me feel young and not yet out of it, not yet overwhelmed by Change.
[info]lundblad wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2006 10:03 pm (UTC)
Link to the Updike rant?
[info]crowleycrow wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2006 01:56 am (UTC)
Don't have linbk -- Sunday NY Times Book View, June 25.
[info]matt_ruff wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2006 01:04 pm (UTC)
Here's the link, although you may need to log in to actually read it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/25/books/review/25updike.html
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2006 10:48 pm (UTC)
Updike, c'est moi! (Disch)
Of course he makes himself look like an asshole. He doesn't seem to understand the good reason why he's upset. His fame his money and his sex appeal are hastening down the drain of history. Mine, too, but mine is not so vast that their loss unhinges me. The writing game is a crying shame, for writers, and a source of schadenfredue to everyome else, who feel toward writers, musicians, and other creative types as I feel toward people who smoke in restaurants. Hey, you're fucked? Glad to hear it.

What no one understands at this point is what literacy will consist of in the near and more distant future. Not a way to make a living, no, but will people be reading anything archived in these vast intangible cyberdumps. Will the authority of the original continue to command $138 million for the portrait of a gorgeous dead Viennese bimbo? It was surely worth a passing glance, but will you bother to take a trip to NYC, and the Neue Gallerie, for having been in the sacred presence of a picture you can grok right here on this screen?

We pay big bucks for the equipment we see our movies on, but will future kids bother to train their minds to enjoy Jane Eyre or Middlemarch? Aren't they going to prefer the direct engagement of Design Your Own Monster and Kill It Tonite! What seems to fuss Updike is the notion that his work will not outlive bronze monuments. For my part, so much smaller a part, I'm resigned to my own and the planet's death. I just want to keep watching it so long as CNN is broadcasting the event.
[info]anselmo_b wrote:
Jun. 27th, 2006 06:29 am (UTC)
That word. And the rant.
Would the word cantankerous fit? Although this is purely subjective, it carries for me a connotation of describing an "older" person.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jul. 2nd, 2006 08:48 pm (UTC)
Re: That word. And the rant.
Curmudgeonly
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jul. 19th, 2006 02:31 am (UTC)
I'm reminded of Thomas Jefferson's version of the Gospels in which he included only those sections without miracles. It's on display at Monticello, or was when I visited there many years ago.
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