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The sound of one dime dropping

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Paul DiFilippo, who is a contributor to the Weird Universe site, presents us with the ur-mention of the ghostly dime droppers thereon, all the way back in 2008, with all subsequent comments thereto, up to the most recent, which makes clear that to really count, the dime encounter must include the actual sound of the dime being dropped by the agent of the other world.  So encounters on the beach, for instance, or in bed, would maybe not be decidable:  

www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/480/

The other new thing we learn from this site is that the date on the dime can be significant.  Why are the dead so given to posing riddles?  Just because ther's so much time to kill over there?

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rogerdr
Jul. 21st, 2010 06:55 pm (UTC)
I like this idea of hearing the dime drop. Adds sensual depth that a good story needs. And spoooky.
vakratunda
Jul. 21st, 2010 06:57 pm (UTC)
If you are doing certain types of necromancy that require a connection to a past year (or rather to a person who was among the living in that year), a silver, copper or gold coin struck that year is the preferred object to use.

You can use other objects, of course: the only requirements being that they are made of the appropriate metal for the kind of work you are doing and that they were extant that year.

In Gene Wolfe's Book Of The New Sun, two witches are seen doing a similar working, making a connection to a very distant past date and using a star known to have been in existence at that time as their object of connection.

This would also work, by the theory. Gene's pretty learned about this kind of thing (as, indeed, is our host).

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crowleycrow
Jul. 21st, 2010 07:14 pm (UTC)
A "potential theory" in Eric Klein's phrasing.
vakratunda
Jul. 21st, 2010 07:24 pm (UTC)
I can't decide whether I prefer him as Klein Eric (Little Eric) or Eric Kleinbottle.

They are both esthetically pleasing.

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(Anonymous)
Jul. 22nd, 2010 03:04 am (UTC)
"Death is nothing, and for that reason you must fear it. What is more to be feared?"
vakratunda
Jul. 22nd, 2010 03:09 am (UTC)
If someone says this to you, s/What/Who/; you should fear him.

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vakratunda
Jul. 22nd, 2010 03:10 am (UTC)
There is no God where I am.

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vakratunda
Jul. 22nd, 2010 03:12 am (UTC)
When you remember previous descents, and you are aware of the whole process, your main concern becomes proper disposal of your body.

I'm OK as long as the raven eats my eyes. I don't know about you.

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vakratunda
Jul. 22nd, 2010 03:27 am (UTC)
s/it/{He || She}/;

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vakratunda
Jul. 22nd, 2010 03:16 am (UTC)
Telephone calls from the dead are common.

I tended twenty thirty dying people back in the eighties.

I remember two phone calls from the dead, the phone rings right then and it's some wierd non-phone call.

Phenomena are relatively common generally.

What happens is, when something happens to someone alone, he normally decides not to talk about it.

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vakratunda
Jul. 22nd, 2010 03:23 am (UTC)
Just before the time I started tending the dying was my second intense period of enochian work.

Me and my buddy Russ Meengs had a ghetto blaster, and we made a cassette tape of me doing the first six calls in the standard way of setting the circle.

Another favorite activity of ours was wandering the streets of Seattle at seriously unGodly hours of the morning, up to nothing too bad.

So we had this box, and we were sitting on this wall looking over the freeway, on the east side of the freeway - I could take you there - and I turned the box on.

We lit up and sat there idly, I cranked the volume.

Across the street is a row of apartment buildings, all windows dark, and a row of parked cars.

There's a light mist in the air, the streetlights make distinct spots with dark borders in the middle of the street.

There's a guy in the middle, looks really seriously like me.

Dressed the same.

Standing with his arms crossed.

Where'd he come from.

There's another.

They are coming - there's another - from between those two parked cars.

They are standing in an arc in the middle of the street.

It's apparent that the arc will become a circle.

Russ looked at me and vice versa.

We turned the fucker off and walked rapidly around the corner, not stopping until we were a couple blocks away.

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(Anonymous)
Jul. 22nd, 2010 04:25 am (UTC)
Why do the dead pose riddles? To get to the other side.
Time is the problem. The dead, being dead, have little if anything with which to communicate and whatever they would wish to say, could they say it, would be dimensionally altered. Their grasp of living things is attenuated to almost nil. (I am thinking of both ghosts in Douglas Adam's Dirk Gently' Holistic Detective Agency, and of Euridice who, dying again, made no complaint and breathed a faint farewell.) Dimes make as little sense as anything else.

But what strikes me here is the problem of time in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Time being what it is, almost forever, and we being as we are, short-lived and civilizationally-challenged, the odds are hugely against any communication from us being received by the putative other and vice versa. Blinking lights on a Christmas tree: one goes off before another goes on. Each civilization dies before another can contact it. Such is time-space.

This has been a melancholy set of posts.

I wonder what the equivalent of an FDR dime would be for an ET?

Anne
crowleycrow
Jul. 22nd, 2010 10:25 am (UTC)
Re: Why do the dead pose riddles? To get to the other side.
The monolith in Arthur C. Clarke's story.
vakratunda
Jul. 22nd, 2010 07:57 pm (UTC)
Being dead's not bad.

It isn't there. Dying can be bad.

You wake up and you are someone else.

The person you were is a dream that is fading.

You carry on your life.

This is what by default happens.

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crowleycrow
Jul. 22nd, 2010 08:24 pm (UTC)
Whew! That's a relief.
vakratunda
Jul. 22nd, 2010 08:31 pm (UTC)
It normally is, until you forget the dream.

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(Anonymous)
Jul. 22nd, 2010 11:15 pm (UTC)
Re: Why do the dead pose riddles? To get to the other side.
Right. A big dime.

'Dropping a dime' used to mean making a phone call and by association ratting out your partner in crime. Inflation means nothing to the dead. We do seem to expect bigger things from the aliens. Thanks, Arthur C.

Anne
vakratunda
Jul. 23rd, 2010 08:37 am (UTC)
Dropping a dime (as far as I know) means calling the cops on someone generically.

Not necessarily narking out a person you owe loyalty to.

I'm not saying you are wrong: regional variations are always possible.

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vakratunda
Jul. 22nd, 2010 09:56 pm (UTC)
Knowledge is based upon experience.

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vakratunda
Jul. 22nd, 2010 07:57 pm (UTC)
Monkeys.

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vakratunda
Jul. 22nd, 2010 08:34 pm (UTC)
If you die what is called a natural death, you always get time to work things out before you go.

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